The Mess Hall

I'm getting pretty pissed off with all the complaining about dole cuts TBH.

I work 40 odd hours a week, with an extra 15 hours in travel and struggle to make ends meet, earning just over £35k. I would actually be financially better off if they made me redundant.

It cost me £4,332 for an annual travel card, which I wouldn't need to pay if I was unemployed. It's either that or pay £400 odd per month.

I pay £200 per month in council tax that I wouldn't have to pay if I was unemployed.

I wouldn't need to find £1200 per month for child care if I was unemployed.

I could get some or all of my £1000 per month rent paid if I was unemployed.


There is too much strain on the system, and something has to give, because us middle earners are giving more than enough. FUCK OFF.

I can see where you're coming from Charlie I really can.
I used to work upto 75 hours a week and hated dole dossers and scroungers. Now I'm one of them I can see their side too.

But the problem is much much bigger than what you or I think it is.

All the money paid out in benefits eventually comes back as tax anyway, well nearly all of it.

Tax on food, gas, electricity, petrol or diesel, VAT on anything we buy, capital gains tax if we buy from large companies (except Amazon and Starbucks - cant afford their coffee anyway), so all in all the taxes paid actually helps keep money within the economy.

The only money that doesn't end up back in circulation would be rent, and most of that does come back, it's only the private landlords that save money for pensions, or outside the UK investment firms that take the money and give it back to share holders.

So all in all it's a good thing that costs the UK very little and mostly stays in the UK.

But by making cuts the Government is reducing the spending ability of the poorest people, and that can only be a bad thing for everyone.
Stores like CEX and cash converters are kept alive by the poor, we sell and trade there all the time, keeping the stores vibrant and alive. The same goes for Tesco's who cater for the poor with dirt cheap food, then there's Iceland.

So making these cuts could effect the whole economy, maybe not by much, but a lot of retailers are hanging on by their fingernails, what might happen to them when these cuts get made?

What is VAT? 20%? That is what goes back when it's spent. The "spending" power of the poor absolutely does not need preserving - you have to work to earn the right to spend. Benefits attempt to preserve the poor's right to exist, and giving out vouchers instead of cash is a good way to maintain that while not allowing the money to be pissed away on White Lightning, Sky TV, weed and BMWs.