pathetic! what a crock of shit!

[Symonator]

http://forums.electronicarts.co.uk/batt ... match.html

[DJ-Daz]

replied.
http://forums.electronicarts.co.uk/batt ... ost9717707

cant help but feel sometimes, that DICE dont give a shit

[Symonator]

im a bit dissapointed in it.!
Perhaps it wont be an issue for us.. i count at least 27 ppl on my list who play battlefield reguarly and are getting bf:43.

But it sucks for other people who dont have mates playing this game.

[DJ-Daz]

I like the idea of small groups, on a smaller map. 2142 used to resize the map depending on how many players your sever was setup for.
But whats wrong with 4v4 6v6
still....
It's only supposed to be a small release, yet it might turn out to be one of their biggest hits for a long time.
1942 was a good game, and got a lot of people into the BF Franchise, a lot of players, I think, want to go back to the grass roots game play.

[Symonator]

gordon replied..

[redVENGEANCE]

and he says the following:

I expected a more knowledgeable post from you on this djsy. You of all people know what it takes from a tech side, Frostbite is not a simple fly by night engine that can P2P the kinda of data going on in the background. Name one P2P game out there doing what BFBC1 does! You can't because no other game does.

Now so everyone understands why we set a limit, these are DEDICATED SERVERS on the highest end hardware available that DICE pays for at no cost to YOU for a $15 game! Because WE PAY for them we have a budget and with that Budget can only rent so many servers giving us a set limit on the total (Business 101). That means each Trial server, Full Game Server, Coral Sea Server, and Private Match Server will take one of these servers from the grand total. A private match will use a 24 player no matter how many join it. So you better believe we're going to require a minimum amount of players using the server and not letting a few wasting it to muck about. That is the truth and facts.

[redVENGEANCE]

im not an expert but why not do it like kz2, ie minimum of 2 for ranked

is that so hard, the smaller the number of people playing, the better the game will play, ie no lag, smooth frame rate etc

[Killzone_Kid]

im not an expert but why not do it like kz2, ie minimum of 2 for ranked

is that so hard, the smaller the number of people playing, the better the game will play, ie no lag, smooth frame rate etc

Killzone uses peer 2 peer, means one of few players running hosts and the rest are clients. shit fucking model as well.

[DJ-Daz]

I think it works well, it's always looking for a faster host in case the original host leaves. So it keeps that server and config going.

[InfiniteStates]

cant help but feel sometimes, that DICE dont give a shit

If that were true, they wouldn't have bothered with it in the first place. That's a great response from GVD too.

Man, I know you guys want Battlefield to be greater than it is, but from a developer point of view, you'll probably find that nearly every "it would be better if..." or "why can't we have..." or "it doesn't do..." has been considered internally by the dev team.

But you know what? Development is a business. It has to make money. Some things get cut, some get put on hold and some will never see the light of day. Not because they're bad ideas or unfeasible, but because it doesn't make business sense.

If you don't operate in this way, you end up like 3D Realms with Duke Nukem Forever.

Now I know I would rather see Battlefield Bad Company in it's present state and look forward to more from Dice in the future, than see BF:BC in the state that everyone whinging on the forums would like to see along with Dice going bust and it being their swan song.

[DJ-Daz]

I know what you're saying infinite, it's just disappointing sometimes to see potential in games that is'nt met.
And it's because of decisions Devs make to cut back on certain areas. Dice are well known for making excellent squad based games, but to leave it out of BFBC was in my humble opinion, a bad one, and the wrong one.
I did post after GVD saying You make them, we ungrateful people play them. And we are, ungratefull at times because we DONT see the work that goes into making them.

[Calloom]

http://forums.electronicarts.co.uk/batt ... match.html

I think its fair on some level. They only have a certain amount of servers and last thing we need is noobs taking them up with 1v1 servers, althought 16 players is hard to come by on the PS3


Oh btw if anyone was wondering i wasnt on my ps3 at weekend i had family over so it got dominated and i imagine theyd probally be dickheads on psn msgs as it wasnt their user o_o

[Symonator]

well its official 1943 is delayed.
( i suggest its a problem with scee)

http://forums.electronicarts.co.uk/batt ... -june.html

also i got featured on this site haha!
http://battlefieldsingleplayer.planetba ... 3_main.php

i hear via people its july 9th now for both consoles.. but if its true or not - i can't 100% tell you that.

[redVENGEANCE]

ffs, the game is finished

hwo much longer do we have to wait?

are sony cashing in on dice/ea advertising revenue on vidzone?

come on!!!

[InfiniteStates]

I know what you're saying infinite, it's just disappointing sometimes to see potential in games that is'nt met.

Believe me mate, it's more annoying as a developer to have features that are piss easy to implement cut by cunts in suits who don't want the extra QA time or whatever other fucking gay reasons they dreamt up that morning to justify they fucking pointless existence in the whole process. You better believe they'll piss and moan if you leave their name out of the credits, or spell it wrong. Wankers.

I did post after GVD saying You make them, we ungrateful people play them. And we are, ungratefull at times because we DONT see the work that goes into making them.

Nice reply

Trust me, developers on the frontline (i.e. people like me that actually make the game, the top 10% or so of the credit list) just want to make the best product possible from the point of view of the player. You will often find people working late to get a unscheduled feature in.

It's all the other fuckwits, most of whom are probably oblivious to the project, or at least ignorant of what it even is, that fuck things up.